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	<title>Comments on: In Response to Nina Simon: Bait and Switch</title>
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		<title>By: Perspectives in Media Management &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Toward a New Transparency: The Indianapolis Museum of Art&#8217;s Deaccession Database</title>
		<link>http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/comment-page-1/#comment-55180</link>
		<dc:creator>Perspectives in Media Management &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Toward a New Transparency: The Indianapolis Museum of Art&#8217;s Deaccession Database</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I have provided links to further reading about interactivity/participation through museum websites. The first article is a critique about the ways in which the IMA website does or does not translate to an in-person visit: Avoiding the Participatory Ghetto: Are Museums Evolving with their Innovative Web Strategies? The second article is a response on IMA’s blog from the Chief Information Officer: In Response to Nina Simon: Bait and Switch. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have provided links to further reading about interactivity/participation through museum websites. The first article is a critique about the ways in which the IMA website does or does not translate to an in-person visit: Avoiding the Participatory Ghetto: Are Museums Evolving with their Innovative Web Strategies? The second article is a response on IMA’s blog from the Chief Information Officer: In Response to Nina Simon: Bait and Switch. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/comment-page-1/#comment-53795</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comments Claire!

It&#039;s definitely tricky to strike the correct balance between providing information and preserving a personal encounter.  I think Nina and I would both agree that this is possible, and that the design of that experience is crucial.

In my opinion, this is just one of those challenges that will continue to make it interesting to work in museums for quite some time!  

Thanks for reading this lengthy blog! and for taking the time to offer your viewpoint too!

-Rob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Claire!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely tricky to strike the correct balance between providing information and preserving a personal encounter.  I think Nina and I would both agree that this is possible, and that the design of that experience is crucial.</p>
<p>In my opinion, this is just one of those challenges that will continue to make it interesting to work in museums for quite some time!  </p>
<p>Thanks for reading this lengthy blog! and for taking the time to offer your viewpoint too!</p>
<p>-Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/comment-page-1/#comment-53688</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t work in this field and offer my thoughts as simply a visitor. Whilst I do look for interaction in most museums, in art galleries in particular I first and foremost wanted to experience the art in front of me. Whilst Nina&#039;s suggestions of panels sharing why exhibits were set up in such-and-such a way would be fascinating, it would be very important not to crowd the visitor with information. I&#039;m all for far more use being made of mobile technology, as Rob says. That way, I can experience the art without distraction but if I come across a piece that is particularly beauitful or intriguing, I can choose of my own free will to delve into more content through my iPhone. A great way to bring the physical museum with the virtual one together on the visitor&#039;s own terms, without forcing information onto them . It&#039;s interesting to know the background to art sometimes but, at others, I just want to look at something beautiful/thought-provoking on its own terms, without an information overload, and in that case, I couldn&#039;t think of anything worse than Nina&#039;s idea of a price tag shown, forcing me to think of the &#039;worth&#039; of this painting and how this compared to the one over there and the other one in the previous room. Let me seek that information out if I wish on my phone.
 Good luck with the Spanish exhibtion - sounds great!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t work in this field and offer my thoughts as simply a visitor. Whilst I do look for interaction in most museums, in art galleries in particular I first and foremost wanted to experience the art in front of me. Whilst Nina&#8217;s suggestions of panels sharing why exhibits were set up in such-and-such a way would be fascinating, it would be very important not to crowd the visitor with information. I&#8217;m all for far more use being made of mobile technology, as Rob says. That way, I can experience the art without distraction but if I come across a piece that is particularly beauitful or intriguing, I can choose of my own free will to delve into more content through my iPhone. A great way to bring the physical museum with the virtual one together on the visitor&#8217;s own terms, without forcing information onto them . It&#8217;s interesting to know the background to art sometimes but, at others, I just want to look at something beautiful/thought-provoking on its own terms, without an information overload, and in that case, I couldn&#8217;t think of anything worse than Nina&#8217;s idea of a price tag shown, forcing me to think of the &#8216;worth&#8217; of this painting and how this compared to the one over there and the other one in the previous room. Let me seek that information out if I wish on my phone.<br />
 Good luck with the Spanish exhibtion &#8211; sounds great!</p>
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		<title>By: lotusmoss</title>
		<link>http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/comment-page-1/#comment-46663</link>
		<dc:creator>lotusmoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m enjoying reading this discussion very much. Bruce brings up a good point about the presence of autonomy, especially at smaller museums. While no one should be let off the hook, it&#039;s important to remember that even when staff (and senior staff!) are gung-ho for changes within a museum, the complicated structure of large institutions (such as the Smithsonian or the Met), make it almost impossible to implement new and innovative material in a quick manner. By the time 500 committees look at something, it&#039;s no longer fresh-feeling or new. And that&#039;s a real problem...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m enjoying reading this discussion very much. Bruce brings up a good point about the presence of autonomy, especially at smaller museums. While no one should be let off the hook, it&#8217;s important to remember that even when staff (and senior staff!) are gung-ho for changes within a museum, the complicated structure of large institutions (such as the Smithsonian or the Met), make it almost impossible to implement new and innovative material in a quick manner. By the time 500 committees look at something, it&#8217;s no longer fresh-feeling or new. And that&#8217;s a real problem&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: What will the museum of the future look like? &#8211; Museum Blogging</title>
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		<dc:creator>What will the museum of the future look like? &#8211; Museum Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Matching the degree of innovation offline with the amount of innovation online. (See also this museum response.) [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Musematic &#187; My mouth is so much larger than my brain…about tweets.</title>
		<link>http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/comment-page-1/#comment-46613</link>
		<dc:creator>Musematic &#187; My mouth is so much larger than my brain…about tweets.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] members of the staff of the Indianapolis Museum of Art is an example of what I’m talking about (http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/)    For me it was infinitely more satisfying to follow the well-written arguments on both [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] members of the staff of the Indianapolis Museum of Art is an example of what I’m talking about (<a href="http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/</a>)    For me it was infinitely more satisfying to follow the well-written arguments on both [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/comment-page-1/#comment-46526</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Beth,

Great point, and thanks for bringing Peter&#039;s excellent article and work into the mix.  There are some great reasons why Peter&#039;s work continues to endure the test of time! For the reader, links to Peter&#039;s work on visual velcro can be found here: http://www.aam-us.org/pubs/visualvelcro.cfm

In the article, Peter points out the same types of questions I was attempting to point out as well (although perhaps less elegantly).  He&#039;s exploring what the right balance is between analog and digital, between experience and information, and specifically what elements impact our visitors the most.

Peter makes the point that &quot;chunks&quot; of information must hook themselves, or make connections with other experiences or information already in our long-term memories.  If I can summarize some of Peter&#039;s points crudely... presenting &quot;chunks&quot; of information in multiple modes increases the chances that these will &quot;hook on&quot; or help our visitors make connections.

Later in the article, Peter advocates for learning lounges that can combine experiences together.  This is an approach we&#039;ve obviously tried to emulate in the Davis LAB and inside of exhibits. I like what Peter has to say about the diversity of our audiences and how they respond to interpretive resources.

&quot;There is clearly no single magic bullet. People are inherently diverse in their learning styles, generational inclinations, entrance narratives and comfort levels with the objects we present—but zones like these that combine analog and digital resources help to weave a cognitive-emotive tapestry around the artworks that invites and structures engaged inquiry. Through such environments we welcome and meet our visitors where they are&quot;

-Rob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Beth,</p>
<p>Great point, and thanks for bringing Peter&#8217;s excellent article and work into the mix.  There are some great reasons why Peter&#8217;s work continues to endure the test of time! For the reader, links to Peter&#8217;s work on visual velcro can be found here: <a href="http://www.aam-us.org/pubs/visualvelcro.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.aam-us.org/pubs/visualvelcro.cfm</a></p>
<p>In the article, Peter points out the same types of questions I was attempting to point out as well (although perhaps less elegantly).  He&#8217;s exploring what the right balance is between analog and digital, between experience and information, and specifically what elements impact our visitors the most.</p>
<p>Peter makes the point that &#8220;chunks&#8221; of information must hook themselves, or make connections with other experiences or information already in our long-term memories.  If I can summarize some of Peter&#8217;s points crudely&#8230; presenting &#8220;chunks&#8221; of information in multiple modes increases the chances that these will &#8220;hook on&#8221; or help our visitors make connections.</p>
<p>Later in the article, Peter advocates for learning lounges that can combine experiences together.  This is an approach we&#8217;ve obviously tried to emulate in the Davis LAB and inside of exhibits. I like what Peter has to say about the diversity of our audiences and how they respond to interpretive resources.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is clearly no single magic bullet. People are inherently diverse in their learning styles, generational inclinations, entrance narratives and comfort levels with the objects we present—but zones like these that combine analog and digital resources help to weave a cognitive-emotive tapestry around the artworks that invites and structures engaged inquiry. Through such environments we welcome and meet our visitors where they are&#8221;</p>
<p>-Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/comment-page-1/#comment-46506</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Rob, I was wondering precisely what you had in mind when you wrote:

There still remains an outstanding debate in my mind regarding whether or not even well designed “experiences” in art museums offer an appreciably better connection to works of art than more unobtrusive offerings of information which allow audiences to pick-and-choose their own experiences with works of art.  Apart from leading audiences by a nose-ring through what they should think/experience there must be a place for a clean, open and personal interpretation of our collections.

What did you mean by well designed experiences versus unobtrusive offerings of information? Can you clarify? This is an interesting discussion!

I think most museum educators feel that the best interpretive materials help the visitor to connect to the objects (Peter Samis&#039;s visual velcro) on their own terms - and offer multiple points of entry and never tell the viewer what to think!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob, I was wondering precisely what you had in mind when you wrote:</p>
<p>There still remains an outstanding debate in my mind regarding whether or not even well designed “experiences” in art museums offer an appreciably better connection to works of art than more unobtrusive offerings of information which allow audiences to pick-and-choose their own experiences with works of art.  Apart from leading audiences by a nose-ring through what they should think/experience there must be a place for a clean, open and personal interpretation of our collections.</p>
<p>What did you mean by well designed experiences versus unobtrusive offerings of information? Can you clarify? This is an interesting discussion!</p>
<p>I think most museum educators feel that the best interpretive materials help the visitor to connect to the objects (Peter Samis&#8217;s visual velcro) on their own terms &#8211; and offer multiple points of entry and never tell the viewer what to think!</p>
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		<title>By: C&#8217;mon, Let&#8217;s Hug It Out Bitch &#124; newcurator</title>
		<link>http://www.imamuseum.org/blog/2009/07/27/nina-simon-response/comment-page-1/#comment-46495</link>
		<dc:creator>C&#8217;mon, Let&#8217;s Hug It Out Bitch &#124; newcurator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Chief Information Officer Rob Stein threw down a pretty good defence in response to Nina Simon&#8217;s article: Avoiding the Participatory Ghetto. It was a good [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, I should add to my ramblings above (really, I&#039;m trying to achieve through volume at this point).

There&#039;s incredibly *deep* value in everyone getting outside of their traditional work affiliations. Art museum folk should work at other kinds of museums and vice versa.

Dan Kohl (our Director of Design) and I have both worked across a broad range of museums and seen their different perspectives in exhibit design and experience -- I think that, coupled with a desire to be family friendly through our Education Department has gotten us of on the right foot with our visitors. The alternate experience puts us in a position about focusing on how to engage a visitor as opposed to creating another art museum exhibit. It&#039;s not that they&#039;re exclusive, it&#039;s that you see parallels and different solutions to solve similar problems. And, it&#039;s applying a different solution to the same problem that really helps me learn about how engage with our visitors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I should add to my ramblings above (really, I&#8217;m trying to achieve through volume at this point).</p>
<p>There&#8217;s incredibly *deep* value in everyone getting outside of their traditional work affiliations. Art museum folk should work at other kinds of museums and vice versa.</p>
<p>Dan Kohl (our Director of Design) and I have both worked across a broad range of museums and seen their different perspectives in exhibit design and experience &#8212; I think that, coupled with a desire to be family friendly through our Education Department has gotten us of on the right foot with our visitors. The alternate experience puts us in a position about focusing on how to engage a visitor as opposed to creating another art museum exhibit. It&#8217;s not that they&#8217;re exclusive, it&#8217;s that you see parallels and different solutions to solve similar problems. And, it&#8217;s applying a different solution to the same problem that really helps me learn about how engage with our visitors.</p>
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